Whether 'tis Nobler...

[doniago]

In my attempts to try to explain the Lyceum to people I feel like I've just made a mess of things. People aren't getting it, quite possibly because I'm not explaining it well. But the worst part is that I feel like people don't _want_ to get it to some degree. I feel like they're reflexively assuming this is some sort of attempt to supplant the EKU when it's nothing of the sort. I've thought about deleting my posts on the SCA LJ Community, I've thought about just freezing them, and I've thought about leaving the community entirely.

And I've also thought about trying to fight the good fight and continue trying to fight what I perceive to be misapprehensions.

What really saddens me? I point out that someone (I have no idea who) started talking up my posting to the Maunche list, and people are more concerned with the fact that I know about this despite being a non-Maunche, and that someone told me about it, than they are with the fact that someone didn't even have the basic courtesy to say "Hey, would you mind if I brought up the Lyceum on the Maunche list to see how people there feel?" Would it have killed someone to do this?

Sigh.

I still think the Lyceum is worth pursuing. I think some people get it. I think more people _could_ get it. I think there's a real chance I'm explaining it badly. I think there's a real chance that some people just won't get it until they have a chance to experience it.

I...I just don't know anymore. But I think it deserves a chance to be tried, and I'll do what I can to give it that chance. Why? Because if it succeeds in what it's trying to do, it could be totally worth it.

As to the SCA Community issue...like I said, I'm tired of playing Sole Defender, but if there are people who genuinely like to hear what I have to say, maybe it's worth it in the end, right?

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Comments

[albreda.livejournal.com]

I just want to say that I think Iago is doing a decent job portraying and answering charges about a concept as currently murky as this one, especially when I really get the impression that he had no idea what the charges would be ahead of time, or that he would even be seen as a representative of the project, and thus be facing charges at all. This one of those times when I think problems could have been foreseen, but groupthink does strange things to one's perceptions of commonly-held realities.

I DO think this project (and Iago's mental health) would be served by allowing the general Scadian public the chance to openly speak with the originators of the idea on a regular basis, or at least in an online forum (not everyone can make it to Panteria, obviously). If Iago just stopped responding here, I wouldn't blame him; this isn't his Pet Project; he asked a question (perhaps more than a little naively as to its implications), and has been getting pretty soundly hammered ever since...

[doniago.livejournal.com]

I love you a great deal.

[albreda.livejournal.com]

I know you, and I know some of the backgound on the Lyceum work, and I have been expressing my MAJOR issues with what I have been hearing all along.

That said, I DO think that folks are being confrontational with you here, and I DO think that you are on the defensive. I think that, as I believe it was Tasha said, A&S is very near and dear to a lot of hearts, and hearing that something so different is even being *discussed* is threatening to us. When the details are hard to pin down, and seem to get backpedalled from as soon as they are, it makes folks even more nervous. I get that you were sounding out an idea, perhaps because you ARE the Devil's Advocate on the Lyceum Committee., and thought other ideas would be valuable. They are.

Get some emotional distance from all of this, take your time, but, if you can come back and look at all of these comments later, when everyone has cooled down and stopped posting here, and try to see past what you perceive as snarkiness from the posts (which I think is just passionate people freaking that something they love is going to get messed with), and really examine the logic and questions presented. Nothing that has been said, not a question or concern raised here, doesn't seem to me to warrant serious attention and thought.

Your instinct to dip your toe in the waters of public opinion was a good one; unfortunately you chose to dip into the Atlantic, instead of a puddle that would dry out in the sun....

[doniago.livejournal.com]

"Your instinct to dip your toe in the waters of public opinion was a good one; unfortunately you chose to dip into the Atlantic, instead of a puddle that would dry out in the sun...."

I hate it when people replace my puddle with the ocean. :)